From the Archives: Special Feature: Learn to Live in the ‘Messy Middle’
We’re taking another trip back in time with this From the Archives episode, revisiting a conversation that shaped the future of ForeverLawn.
What would your past self from ten years ago think if they could see where you are today? Would they be proud—or would their limited perspective skew what they see?
In this episode, Dale and Brian reflect on an unexpected encounter with Placitas Man, whose simple but powerful advice challenged them to press on, work hard, and not look back. At the time, they could hardly imagine employing more than ten people—but his words carried them through the “messy middle” of entrepreneurship.
Now, 20 years later, they look back to see if his wisdom held true—and how it might apply to your own journey.

Episode Highlights:
- Dale & Brian move back to Ohio.
- Noticing dominant businesses in the community.
- People will always overestimate or underestimate you.
- Staying “others focused.”
- It’s all about perspective.
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